Anarcho-nationalism of the WSM

Submitted by WorldRevolution on July 6, 2008 - 14:01.
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Calling for a no-vote alongside the defenders of ‘Irish independence' is not the only example of the WSM's nationalist tendencies. They also support so-called ‘anti-imperialist' struggles (which in Ireland means tailending Republicanism) and even for the nationalisation of Ireland's natural resources. Even though they argue that this is just a tactic and that their ultimate goal is social revolution, the latter still has a very Irish tinge to it: "The WSM believes that the natural resources of Ireland should be ultimately collectively owned and managed by the population of Ireland. This can only come about through a social revolution abolishing capitalism and the state".  So even after a social revolution the "population of Ireland" will still be a collective proprietor. So much for a world without borders. Meanwhile, however:

"The WSM believes that a natural resources campaign, if broad based, could be a positive step forward in the long-term project of building a radical social movement and indeed in the short-term as it will supplement Shell to Sea.

The WSM endorses the idea of a campaign if it incorporates the following points

a) The Natural Resources of Ireland (oil, gas, wind/wave power, water) should not be owned or controlled by business interests.
b) These resources should be used for the benefit of all of the people in Ireland.
c) These resources must be used in a sustainable way, so that future generations and the environment of Ireland are not put at risk.
d) The acceptance of direct action as a legitimate tactic.

e) The campaign is organised on a democratic and delegate basis.

f) The campaign is not set up as a rival or competitor to Shell to Sea.

g) Within its first year it is capable of being more than a small publicity campaign."
‘Perspectives of the WSM' updated November 2007: http://www.wsm.ie/story/454

There could hardly be a more evident expression of ‘anarcho-Trotskyism' - anarchism as a thin disguise for the politics of the capitalist left.   Amos 5/7/8

national liberation...from reality

If what I wrote sounded like an Anarchist slagging you off it is because I have heard so many "Anarchists" tarring me with this "Leninist"/authoritarian brush that I can repeat the sorts of things I've heard them say. The Irish bourgeoisie can do two things, they can choose to follow the US capital or European capital. No national "independence" is possible and even if it were, workers would be exploited more ferociously in order to build up "their" newly founded nation. As an example of this one need but point to...every national liberation movement of the twentieth century!

Difficulty of humour...

I sympathise with the objective but it seems that the humour missed its mark since at least some of us thought that this was anarchists mocking left communists. Difficulty with jokes not being very cross-cultural sometimes!
Ah well...

Yes it was a joke...

I was trying to illustrate a point about how Anarchism attacks left-communists for "Leninism" while providing an element of political cover for ex-Stalinists/Maoists/Trots to continue their traditional objectively counterrevolutionary activities.

Not very funny....

If it is a joke, it's not a very funny one. Tragic case of lamentably poor sense of humour.

Marxist a Counter Revolutionaries?

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How can you say that Marxist ideology is a counter revolutionary? Have you understood what you are posting on this page? Have you any idea of the history and ideology of the people you are mentioning and the grounds that you have presented here? Please make sure your facts are realistic so that it would not make any mockery and become a laughing topic in this site.

Please tell me this is a

Please tell me this is a joke.

Here's my Anarcho-Stalinist

Here's my Anarcho-Stalinist Platform:
1) A two stage revolution with both phases being capitalist.
2) Support of all united fronts with organizations larger and more powerful than ourselves, maybe they will let us play with them.
3) Support for unions, and of course the ruling political parties that control them.
4) Support for all nationalist movements particularly, the more violently fundamentalist and reactionary the better.
5) Support for the nationalization of industry and natural resources.
6) We demand a racially, sexually and ethnically diverse bourgeoisie! We will not be happy until everyone has a capitalist of their skin color, national origins, sex and sexuality ruling over us.
7) Compulsory historical revisionism to combat the pernicious lies that Stalinism represented and still represents a genocidal counterrevolutionary leviathan.
8) We support a united front of progressive forces with Anarcho-Trotskyists and others so we can exterminate them.
9) All Marxists are counterrevolutionaries, especially when they attempt to talk to us and especially if they start talking about this "Communist-Left", whatever that is.

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