In an effort to understand why the ICC organise they way they do and why it is the correct proletarian method I am re-reading their pamphlet COMMUNIST ORGANISATIONS & CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS.
Perhaps this would be a useful forum topic for all questions on the nature of organisation? The only problem is forum topics can get 'lost' if no one comments for a while. Perhaps some core topics could be 'stickied' at the top of the forum like they are on revleft.com?
I think my first point could have been put in the Class Consciousness topic started by A.Simpleton but I think the whole question of organisation deserves a space on the forum of its own.
So, here goes...
What is communism? (page 4)
Marx is quoted:
"Communism is for us not a STATE OF AFFAIRS whichis to be established, an IDEAL to which reality will leave (should that be have?) to adjust itself. We call communism the REAL movement which abolishes the present state of things." (German Ideology)
However, doesn't this then contradict at the top of page 5:
"Communism will be the result of a conscious and progressive transformation of the old world by the human community, following the violent destruction of former social relations."
Is not the violent destruction of former social relations part of the real movement i.e communism and not apart from it? What I mean is that the destruction of the present social relations are not totally separate from the construction of new ones. They are distinct, will be massively different but they are linked in the process we understand as communist revolution. It is not a mechanical process, one thing ceases then another starts but all part of one process. i.e abolishing the present state of things is at the same time bringing about a new state of things i.e communism in this case.
I have tried to be as clear as possible in writing my thought and confusion, perhaps it is even a semantic misunderstanding. I will try again to explain what I am thinking if necessary.