
The discussion that follows was prompted by the article: The social movements in Brazil, June 2013. The discussion was initiated by KT.
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The discussion that follows was prompted by the article: The social movements in Brazil, June 2013. The discussion was initiated by KT.
Below is the discussion so far. Feel free to add your own comments!
Briefly to welcome this article, its explanations and analysis. The last three paragraphs, specifically, seem to sum up the difficulties and possiblities of the proletarian movements on the streets in the recent period. While no doubt the product of the ICC's collective discusssion and vision, many thanks in particular to the comrades in Brazil. At a time when, it is said, humanity is at the crossroads with the death and decomposition of Syria and elsewhere a stark demonstration of what could be in store globally, this article about the class' struggles reminds us that it is both necessary and possible to walk this way too.
I just tried to post on here, but was told there's a "validation error". Try again. Did try but no go. This is one of a few posts I've had blocked recently and I am beginning to wonder whether the site administrator is against me. If you don't want me to post just tell me. Don't mess about. I'm fed up!
Are you serious Fred? What's the more likely explanation--the site administrator is censoring you or that there is a technical problem? Of course, it could also be the NSA screwing with the site again.
In reading this article, I found myself wondering what distinguishes a movement like this (one in which the embryonic forms of councils or whatever are formed) from a riot (like the ones in the Paris suburbs in 2005 or in the UK last year)? Surely, the rioters were pretty indignat about something. So, what are the factors that determine whether indignance leads to a riot (which we always denounce) or some kind of proto-social movement? How thick or thin is the line that seperates them? Are the important factors sociological, conjunctural, etc.?
The comrades from Brazil make this important point.