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The discussion that follows was prompted by the article: What does it mean to struggle as part of the working class?. The discussion was initiated by Fred.
Below is the discussion so far. Feel free to add your own comments!
Solidarity is at the very heart of what the working class is - a revolutionary class with a love of humanity as it's very essence. The exact opposite this of the cold hearted bourgeois imprisoned in the icy enclosure of individual self-interest. But the love of humanity as expressed in working class solidarity is of course illegal under bourgeois rule. No surprise there. The bourgeois imposition of illegality on human solidarity and love says it all!
As Alex says: striking health workers don't really "love" the Health Service which actually exploits their talents and good natured love for their patients for its own purposes. What they really love is the idea of a Health Service as it will be under communism. There is no prospect for such generous human bounty under capitalism.
Everything comes down to love versus capitalism. And the two can never meet.
I'm ambivalent; you are right that there are probably warm, genuine capitalists out there, who don't understand their wealth.
I think that both the ideal of peace and love, and their antithesis, can be overplayed.
There's not a thing wrong with being appalled at e.g. the forcible clearance of refugee camps, on the grounds of pity or compassion. That's totally natural, IMO. The difference between the liberal / cpaitalist and proletarian versions of this, is surely practical
uh it's probably quite a lot more complciated than i suggested. the capitalist class, for obvious reasons, don't have to be cowed into senseless fear of each other, or pitted against each other in quite the same way.
would be difficult to recover an actual person from the ideological mess that everyone is choking on... i still think that hate isn't an especially helpful way to approach the question of the capitalist, but yeah, is there a detestable kindness ?