Is greed a part of communism? I think this ties in directly to our thread about greed and human nature.
To answer quickly - hopefully not. Since communist society will be focused on what people need and what they have to contribute, the conditions that drive people towards greediness in capitalist society will surely be supressed to some degree.
PS - blackpope75, is English your first language? We might be able to help out if not.
Is human nature a product of greed? You could argue that "human nature" is a false concept the invention of exploiting and ruling classes across the millennia, used as a cover for their sub-human activities.
Bourgeois dominance in capitalist mode co-opts the very languages humans speak. The actual relations of production and the capitalist mode usurps, redefines for their own purposes of oppression the meaning to words/concepts and then insidiously back projects this onto the real history Marx depicted.
'Value' was his root example; even 'use value' - which seems obvious - was most likely not the way our distant forbears conceived the world.
Capital and its eternal (yeah right) 'laws' plundered backwards from money value to commodity value to equivalent value to exchange value to use value.
He cared about language, thought about language, compared language - as did Hegel.
He liked English because it had two words for 'Arbeit' :viz labour and work for example.
Responsible: able to respond. Sensible: able to sense. Both now mean 'obey the state or you're an 'irresponsible slob with no sense'
'Human nature' may well not entirely escape the besmirchment.
Bourgeois dominance in capitalist mode co-opts the very languages humans speak. The actual relations of production and the capitalist mode usurps, redefines for their own purposes of oppression the meaning to words/concepts and then insidiously back projects this onto the real history Marx depicted.
Well said my comrade Simpleton. Please have an extra fruit juice on me on Christmas Eve, before attending Midnight Mass.
This thread and the one on "greed and human nature" seem very similar subjects, so we've decided to close this thread and we encourage comrades to continue the discussion under the "human nature" heading.
Is greed a part of communism? I think this ties in directly to our thread about greed and human nature.
To answer quickly - hopefully not. Since communist society will be focused on what people need and what they have to contribute, the conditions that drive people towards greediness in capitalist society will surely be supressed to some degree.
PS - blackpope75, is English your first language? We might be able to help out if not.
Is human nature a product of greed? You could argue that "human nature" is a false concept the invention of exploiting and ruling classes across the millennia, used as a cover for their sub-human activities.
Abundant logic in what you write Fred.
Bourgeois dominance in capitalist mode co-opts the very languages humans speak. The actual relations of production and the capitalist mode usurps, redefines for their own purposes of oppression the meaning to words/concepts and then insidiously back projects this onto the real history Marx depicted.
'Value' was his root example; even 'use value' - which seems obvious - was most likely not the way our distant forbears conceived the world.
Capital and its eternal (yeah right) 'laws' plundered backwards from money value to commodity value to equivalent value to exchange value to use value.
He cared about language, thought about language, compared language - as did Hegel.
He liked English because it had two words for 'Arbeit' :viz labour and work for example.
Responsible: able to respond. Sensible: able to sense. Both now mean 'obey the state or you're an 'irresponsible slob with no sense'
'Human nature' may well not entirely escape the besmirchment.
A. Simpleton wrote:
Well said my comrade Simpleton. Please have an extra fruit juice on me on Christmas Eve, before attending Midnight Mass.
This thread and the one on "greed and human nature" seem very similar subjects, so we've decided to close this thread and we encourage comrades to continue the discussion under the "human nature" heading.