France: 290000 people, including 27000 military call for civil war against the internal enemies of France (update 2021-05-15)

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France: 290000 people, including 27000 military call for civil war against the internal enemies of France (update 2021-05-15)
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After a diatribe against the "Islamists", the "anti-racists" and the "suburban hordes", the threats are quite explicit:

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"[...] do not waste time and know that we are ready to support the politicians who will take into consideration the safeguard of the nation.

On the other hand, if nothing is done, laxity will continue to spread inexorably in society, ultimately causing an explosion and the intervention of our active comrades in a perilous mission of protecting our civilizational values ​​and safeguarding our compatriots on the national territory.

As we can see, there is no more time to procrastinate, otherwise, tomorrow the civil war will put an end to this growing chaos, and the deaths, for which you will bear the responsibility, will number in the thousands."

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Immediately, Marine le Pen, leader of the far-right RN party (second French party by number of votes) supported the movement.

The army reacted by announcing that it would bring before the war council 18 active military identified in the petition, and would probably remove the generals who signed the platform.

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However:

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"According to the Harris Interactive survey carried out for LCI, 64% of respondents have heard of this forum and 38% see precisely what it is. [...] In total, 58% of respondents support the military who signed the platform, according to our survey, carried out on a sample of 1,613 people.

[...] almost one in two people (49%) believe that the military should intervene to guarantee order even without the government's solicitation. "

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Tagore2
Update: 13728 military, 2021-04-29

The putschist spirit is spreading like wildfire in the army: tenfold signatures of military in support of a possible coup d'état in one week (13728, 2021-04-29), which quote name, first name and weapon, so that they are perfectly identified.

The far right exults and encourages the military to unite and organize against the "short-lived little politicians" and for "eternal France".

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Among the first 1,500 supporters, we find:

General officers (25):

  • 25 generals

Senior officers (329):

  • 78 colonels (or equivalent)
  • 124 lieutenant-colonels (or equivalent)
  • 127 commanders (or equivalent)

junior officers (153)

Or 507 officers (1/3). But there could be more now.

Source.

Tagore2
Update

This post only put the updates of the petition.

  • 27258 military, 2021-05-14
  • No update, 2021-05-13
  • 27052 military, 2021-05-12
  • No update, 2021-05-11
  • 26254 military, 2021-05-10
  • 25764 military, 2021-05-09
  • No update, 2021-05-08
  • No update, 2021-05-07
  • 25251 military, 2021-05-06
  • 24805 military, 2021-05-05
  • 24700 military, 2021-05-04 (?)
  • 24127 military, 2021-05-03
  • 23312 military, 2021-05-02
  • 21829 military, 2021-05-01
  • 18005 military, 2021-04-30
  • 13728 military, 2021-04-29
  • 8575 military, 2021-04-28
  • 3000 military, 2021-04-27 (?)
  • ???? military, 2021-04-21 (Valeurs actuelles' post)
  • 1500 military, 2021-04-14 (original post)
Tagore2
I don't think there is an

I don't think there is an immediate risk of a putsch. This petition, however, gives a representation of the putchists within the army.

In the absence of serious repression (as is likely), the officers and the extreme right will emerge strengthened and will say to themselves that a coup is possible in France.

This is why I think we have to follow this petition to see how many soldiers would be ready to take up arms against the government to support a far right party.

Communist
Fascism is back?

This sounds very much like the fascist intrigues of the 20th century. How serious is this? Is it big news there in France?

From time to time here in the UK, we'd hear ex-military figures talking vaguely of a coup if Corbyn had become prime minister, but it was little more than folk trying to get on the TV.

Do you see this as an isolated incident or part of a growing trend within the ruling classes globally?

It's a strange one, as I've more and more been coming to the view that 21st century 'fascism' will be that of an alliance between the world of liberal identity politics and authoritarian nationalism - the same alliance which supports lockdowns with such fervour...

Communist
Fascism is back?

Double post

Tagore2
No immediate risk: the

No immediate risk: the fascists are counting themselves. How many would be ready? As of May 2, ~22,000. But they still lack a centralized organization.

Marine Le Pen answered them:

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"The concerns that you courageously express cannot remain at the stage of expressing indignation, however powerful. It requires in a democracy, the search for a political solution which must be concretized by a project of alternation which is intended to be validated by the suffrage of the French."

Source.

Which is laughable. Would Hitler have called for democracy if military threatened to take up arms? The far right acts with the fascists in much the same way as the far left with the communists.

Is not Hitler who wills.

Tagore2
Second military plateform.

Second military plateform. 2021-05-11: 246075 (civil) endorsements.

Civil war program of the "Place d'Armes" party, authors of the platforms.

Tagore2
The military platform does

The military platform does not speak at all of the contemporary hot topic, namely the health dictatorship.

On the contrary, they divert the people's attention to various facts, and sink into the most outrageous paranoia: according to Place d'Armes, the army and society are infiltrated by the Islamists, who are preparing to act; Muslims and bi-nationals must therefore be "purged" from the army, in anticipation of the "inevitable" civil war, because neither the fidelity of Muslims nor that of bi-nationals is guaranteed in the ethno-religious war which is brewing.

Still according to Place d'Armes, 100,000 Salafist belligerents are preparing to militarily attack the Republic from the inside, to which would be added 500,000 migrants and other "irregular" foreigners, which should ideally be opposed to an army of "5 million men" (sic!), to "neutralize" them.

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"An ultimate solution for our twilight French Republic would be to apply the doctrine developed in particular by General SOUBELET theorizing the establishment of "Task Forces" or other inter-ministerial tactical groups made up of around 1000 people (soldiers, police officers, magistrates, prison officers, customs officers...) responsible for treating a suburb for 1 month in depth in order to root out the evil: France has 750 non-rights zones and nearly 110 Salafist mosques in 2021. This mission could solve our problems in 3 years if we devote permanent budgets and staff to it making it possible to control at least 30 cities simultaneously, i.e. 30,000 deployed individuals and therefore double the theoretical staff. France still has these resources before the fire spreads and may our country come to an inexorable tipping point. "

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Purge of the army, reorganization of the administration under the rule of the military, bloated army, exceptional courts and massacre of "Islamists" and other "migrants" to control the "insurgency", "3-year civil war", city after city, such is the program of Place d'Armes, to which subscribe hundreds of thousands of people, tens of thousands of soldiers and officers, with the support of at least 45% of the French population, according to a survey using quota method:

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"Do you support the military who signed this platform?" 58% "yes". (p. 5)

"In some cities and neighborhoods, the laws of the republic do not apply": 86% "agree".

[...]

"The army should intervene without being ordered to do so in order to guarantee order and security in France": 49% "agree".

"France will soon experience a civil war": 45% "agree". (p. 6)

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So no, not a military coup, but the military protection of the state by the most brutal, extremist and barbaric means, in the most chaotic and irrational fashion, in the Nazi fashion. Replace the Jews with the Muslims, the "Judeo-Bolshevik plot" by the "Islamo-leftist plot", and you have it, the Place d'Armes program!

Read Place d'armes' articles, these people are growing! The murderous paranoia from the "afterworld" has only just begun.